ok, a law-abiding citizen , yes, but a productive citizen, what do you think.. i have heard this statment from the borg., how people from all over the.
world have change their lives and become a productive citizen, how?.
in my community when a problem arise (gangs, racial, police) who is on.
Their above statement is claiming that only Jehovahs Witnesses are law abiding and productive citizens;
- i.e. barring the seven million odd JWs in this world, all the other six billion persons on this planet are not law abiding and productive; not even one of them!
This, of course, is simply ridiculous!
Furthermore, the above claim is the same as saying that each and every JW is a law-abiding citizen. This, too, is by no means the case - but will be the subject of a future post.
Bill.
i remember when i was a witless, i spouted the words "it's the most accurate translation".... i'm sure you did too :).
i've been researching the topic of just how badly the nwt is mistranslated.
i keep finding more and more examples of blatant mutilation of scriptures in the nwt.. for the record, i love to know just where are they finding these "scholars" to prop up their assertions that their joke of a bible is the "most accurate"?
The one scholar that I know of who had only favorable things to say about the New World Translation was Alexander Thompson.
Thompson, apparently, was "Advisor to the Queen" (i.e. of England) on Biblical Languages.
(Presumably, the King or Queen of England requires such an advisor, because he/she is automatically head of the Church of England?)
Anyway, I - along with most other publishers I knew when I first "came into the Truth" - always carried a photocopy of Alexander Thompson's praise of the NWT. When anybody disputed the accuracy of that "green" bible we all carried, this document would be waved in their faces!
That 7 x 5 inch card, though, did not list Thompson's academic qualifications - so I have no idea of what his background actually was:
This photocopy seemed to think that being "Advisor to the Queen" more than qualified him to know what he was talking about!
Bill.
i am just wondering since these people never work a secular job.
is there some sort of an arrangement from the society to care for them?
presuming they don't even have children of their own to look after them when they are old..
Many years ago now, I can remember a remark being made in a Watchtower article, in which they actually boasted of this fact:
i.e. Unlike the "Churches of Christendom", there was NO retirement for full time ministers of Jehovahs Witnesses.
Reading between the lines, of course, this means that when they are unable to keep working - because of poor health or advanced age - they are thrown out into the street.
Bill.
our jw contact sent us the " witness only " wt's again and i just had to make a thread on this mind numbing article.
starting on pg.22 in the jan.15th it deals with " coping with discouragement ".
it seems lots of jw's are under intense stress these days ( can you blame them ?
When I first began began "studying" with the JWs, I heard from them what a miraculous experience it was to attend one of their meetings;
- nothing at all like any church service you ever attended.
- instead, you would experience indescribable benefits.
- and all in all, these meetings were a totally mind blowing experience.
Then came the reality!
- I actually thought for quite a time that there must be something wrong with me, that there was somehow a point that I was missing.
The penny did finally drop, however - i.e. their meetings are just a rehash of a rehash of previous rehashes, with the hardest part being to stay awake throughout the entire two hours.
As for meeting attendance being a cure for depression - best stick to Prozac!
Bill.
i'm really curious how many of those df'd have ever received a yearly visit........ .
This is the first news that we were supposed to be contacted again on an annual basis.
In nearly seventeen years, not once (not that I want one!)
Bill.
by opening this post, you are admitting that you are failures - well done!
lol.
i must say, i have had so much fun on this site - some real laugh out loud moments for my friends and i to enjoy.. no need to respond - i am busy pioneering from tomorrow, so will no longer have time on my hands to sit at my pc enjoying laughing at your pathetic comments.
Ernest Hemmingway once wrote a boof "Farewell to Arms."
Farewell to you, too - and good riddance!
If by "failure" you mean having seen through the charade of the WTS, then I am happy to be labelled a "failure" - there ought to be more of it!
And who are the "saddest":
- these wouldn't include the deluded fools who have decided to work full time (and unpaid) for a multinational book publishing company, that cares not one iota for the welfare of its adherents, would it? (!)
Bill.
many outsiders see good in the w.t.
and many insiders see good in the w.t.. so is not the w:t like any other organisation based on idealisam and growth.
acolytes.
That is easy (or ought to be!)
The WTS claims to be RIGHT -and everyone else to be WRONG!
In fact, they are guilty of the very same crimes that they lambast everyone else for committing
(Including - but not limited to - false prophecy. Commmitted by anybody else, it IS false propehcy. Committed by the WTS, it is "New Light)
Bill.
why the breakdown .my mate and i are growing apart.. before you follow the advice of this publication.read the following.. robert and mary have been married for 30 years.they have a lovely daughter jennifer and a son ryan.robert,says we were a very happy family doing things together.like reading the bible,praying, going to church,weddings, funerals,christmas parties,get together with friends,vacations etc,etc.however,all that changed when mary joined the watchtower cult.now my wife declines all the above activities.all she does is read the wt/a mags.we now fight everday and are not happy.. just imagine mary said she will not go jennifers wedding because she was told by the publishers of the wt that our church is babylon the great,a whore and evil.
see wt 07/10/15 p27 and wt 05/02 qfr.. i believe their advice is hypocritical and would in fact cause this family to grow apart.they would end up in divorce court.the wife is brain-washed.after the divorce she would disown the family and will the estate and money to the wbts.. b.
Whatever makes a marriage last, you won't find it in any WTS publication.
What would seven old fossils in Brooklyn know about human relationships - or anything else to do with human relationships, for that matter?
The best techniques of selling literature have sweet Fanny Adams to do with anything else, including marriage guidance!
Bill.
i rang a sister who i haven't spoken to for years who said "she couldn't talk since she was cooking for the c.o and his wife who have special dietary needs......was this like a royal visits at your cong and whats with the "we can't eat flour, or yeast" or blah blah blah!
!.
It must have appeared that way to many!
I can recall some in the congregation with their noses right out of joint, when they did not get to host the CO for a meal.
Bill.
i've noticed quite a few dissidents of jehovah's organization that have left with some fixation on jehovah's witnesses concept of new light.
i really don't understand.
the antiquity of religion may be historically educational, but not always personally illuminating.
Real scholars of the bible - NOT the pseudo, Watchtower Society type "scholars" - are in agreement that Proverbs 4:18 is indeed talking about an individual's spiritual development.
N.H. Knorr is credited with seizing on this bible verse in an attempt to justify the WTS's frequent changing of doctrines:
- not to mention its frequent need to revise its interpretations of bible prohecy, when these have failed repeatedly.
Well has this so-called "brightening light" been more accurately described as a "Flashing Light", like the WTS is unable to make up its mind.
Better call in the electricians!
Bill.
